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Santanu Sengupta PRO
4 years ago

Hello All.

 

A quick question - I am a new member and have been exploring the site, of late.

 

I haven't found the Expert Curators team anywhere on the site, though I have found the names of Head Curators.

 

Is there any place on the site where the current Expert Curators team is listed?

 

I have seen the ranking of curators and the Top List, but this list does not necessarily imply that, the Top 10 on the list are all Expert Curators, I think.

 

Best and Cheers,

 

Santanu.

Edited: 4 years ago by Santanu Sengupta
Hans Martin Doelz CREW 
4 years ago — Head of ambassadors
Santanu Sengupta PRO

Hello All.

 

A quick question - I am a new member and have been exploring the site, of late.

 

I haven't found the Expert Curators team anywhere on the site, though I have found the names of Head Curators.

 

Is there any place on the sire where the current Expert Curators team is listed?

 

I have seen the ranking of curators and the Top List, but this list does not necessarily imply that, the Top 10 on the list are all Expert Curators, I think.

 

Best and Cheers,

 

Santanu.

Hi Santanu,

 

at the moment there are 165 members which have reached at least the curation level 7 and are therefore expert curators.

 

 
Go to Top List (as you mentioned in your post), choose the time frame "all time" and you'll see that place 165 has level 7, place 166 has level 6.
 
 
Kind Regards, Hans-Martin
 

 

Santanu Sengupta PRO
4 years ago
Hans Martin Doelz PRO
Santanu Sengupta PRO

Hello All.

 

A quick question - I am a new member and have been exploring the site, of late.

 

I haven't found the Expert Curators team anywhere on the site, though I have found the names of Head Curators.

 

Is there any place on the sire where the current Expert Curators team is listed?

 

I have seen the ranking of curators and the Top List, but this list does not necessarily imply that, the Top 10 on the list are all Expert Curators, I think.

 

Best and Cheers,

 

Santanu.

Hi Santanu,

 

at the moment there are 165 members which have reached at least the curation level 7 and are therefore expert curators.

 

 
Go to Top List (as you mentioned in your post), choose the time frame "all time" and you'll see that place 165 has level 7, place 166 has level 6.
 
 
Kind Regards, Hans-Martin
 

 

Hans Martin,

 

Thank you so much.

 

This is very helpful.

 

Best,

 

Santanu.

Santanu Sengupta PRO
4 years ago
Hans Martin Doelz PRO
Santanu Sengupta PRO

Hello All.

 

A quick question - I am a new member and have been exploring the site, of late.

 

I haven't found the Expert Curators team anywhere on the site, though I have found the names of Head Curators.

 

Is there any place on the sire where the current Expert Curators team is listed?

 

I have seen the ranking of curators and the Top List, but this list does not necessarily imply that, the Top 10 on the list are all Expert Curators, I think.

 

Best and Cheers,

 

Santanu.

Hi Santanu,

 

at the moment there are 165 members which have reached at least the curation level 7 and are therefore expert curators.

 

 
Go to Top List (as you mentioned in your post), choose the time frame "all time" and you'll see that place 165 has level 7, place 166 has level 6.
 
 
Kind Regards, Hans-Martin
 

 

Hans Martin,

 

Just one further follow up while I have you.

 

The experience levels are largely based on the number of images viewed and curated, I take it.

 

Is there any listing by accuracy of curated images? Of course, the data is available but perhaps, it does not make sense to make accuracy data public?

 

Regards,

 

Santanu.

Mike Kreiten CREW 
4 years ago — Head senior critic
Santanu Sengupta PRO
Hans Martin Doelz PRO
Santanu Sengupta PRO

Hello All.

 

A quick question - I am a new member and have been exploring the site, of late.

 

I haven't found the Expert Curators team anywhere on the site, though I have found the names of Head Curators.

 

Is there any place on the sire where the current Expert Curators team is listed?

 

I have seen the ranking of curators and the Top List, but this list does not necessarily imply that, the Top 10 on the list are all Expert Curators, I think.

 

Best and Cheers,

 

Santanu.

Hi Santanu,

 

at the moment there are 165 members which have reached at least the curation level 7 and are therefore expert curators.

 

 
Go to Top List (as you mentioned in your post), choose the time frame "all time" and you'll see that place 165 has level 7, place 166 has level 6.
 
 
Kind Regards, Hans-Martin
 

 

Hans Martin,

 

Just one further follow up while I have you.

 

The experience levels are largely based on the number of images viewed and curated, I take it.

 

Is there any listing by accuracy of curated images? Of course, the data is available but perhaps, it does not make sense to make accuracy data public?

 

Regards,

 

Santanu.

That "accuracy" is visible for each person participating and ultimately makes him or her an "expert". I don't think the score needs to be visible to others in detail.

Since you don't know who voted for your work and how, it does not make much sense to have that information anyhow, does it?

 

Regards,

Mike

Santanu Sengupta PRO
4 years ago
Mike Kreiten PRO
Santanu Sengupta PRO
Hans Martin Doelz PRO
Santanu Sengupta PRO

Hello All.

 

A quick question - I am a new member and have been exploring the site, of late.

 

I haven't found the Expert Curators team anywhere on the site, though I have found the names of Head Curators.

 

Is there any place on the sire where the current Expert Curators team is listed?

 

I have seen the ranking of curators and the Top List, but this list does not necessarily imply that, the Top 10 on the list are all Expert Curators, I think.

 

Best and Cheers,

 

Santanu.

Hi Santanu,

 

at the moment there are 165 members which have reached at least the curation level 7 and are therefore expert curators.

 

 
Go to Top List (as you mentioned in your post), choose the time frame "all time" and you'll see that place 165 has level 7, place 166 has level 6.
 
 
Kind Regards, Hans-Martin
 

 

Hans Martin,

 

Just one further follow up while I have you.

 

The experience levels are largely based on the number of images viewed and curated, I take it.

 

Is there any listing by accuracy of curated images? Of course, the data is available but perhaps, it does not make sense to make accuracy data public?

 

Regards,

 

Santanu.

That "accuracy" is visible for each person participating and ultimately makes him or her an "expert". I don't think the score needs to be visible to others in detail.

Since you don't know who voted for your work and how, it does not make much sense to have that information anyhow, does it?

 

Regards,

Mike

Mike

 

Yes, I agree, and I had mentioned as well in my earlier comment that, it perhaps does not make sense to provide accuracy data publicly.  

 

Still thought I'd ask once.

 

The question was out of curiosity, and mainly owing to my interest in numbers and analytics. Was curious about the kind of accuracy the absolute experts ultimately hit, vis-a-vis a novice such as me. :) - not about who my expert curators might be.

 

Thank you for your response.

 

Best

 

Santanu.

Edited: 4 years ago by Santanu Sengupta
Steven T CREW 
4 years ago — Senior critic

Santanu,

 

Thank you for starting the discussion about 'Expert' Curators. 

 

My understanding is that the 'Accuracy' rating is determined by how often the voting member chooses the same pictures that a 'Head Curator' would choose.  In the 'Statistics' page, the 'Correct' decisions are compared to the 'Incorrect' decisions.   I think rewarding members for that sort of accuracy is a recipe for clichés. 

 

Personally I like to vote 'Publish' for photos that show a spark of creativity - no matter how faint.  I vote 'Publish' for photos I know for certain will not be awarded, hoping that my one vote might encourage the photographer in some small way - let them know that one other member noticed and appreciated the photograph they made.  Conversely, I vote 'Reject' for photos that give me the feeling that I have seen them one thousand times already - no matter how technically perfect they may be.  

 

So my 'accuracy' rating is probably not very high.   The 'Statistics' chart is beautiful eye-candy, but the definitions of 'Correct' and 'Incorrect' are arbitrary.  But I guess there's no other way to measure how seriously a member takes their responsibility to vote for the best photos. 

 

That's my opinion.

 

- Steven T.  

 

 

Omar Mhanna
4 years ago
Steven T PRO

Santanu,

 

Thank you for starting the discussion about 'Expert' Curators. 

 

My understanding is that the 'Accuracy' rating is determined by how often the voting member chooses the same pictures that a 'Head Curator' would choose.  In the 'Statistics' page, the 'Correct' decisions are compared to the 'Incorrect' decisions.   I think rewarding members for that sort of accuracy is a recipe for clichés. 

 

Personally I like to vote 'Publish' for photos that show a spark of creativity - no matter how faint.  I vote 'Publish' for photos I know for certain will not be awarded, hoping that my one vote might encourage the photographer in some small way - let them know that one other member noticed and appreciated the photograph they made.  Conversely, I vote 'Reject' for photos that give me the feeling that I have seen them one thousand times already - no matter how technically perfect they may be.  

 

So my 'accuracy' rating is probably not very high.   The 'Statistics' chart is beautiful eye-candy, but the definitions of 'Correct' and 'Incorrect' are arbitrary.  But I guess there's no other way to measure how seriously a member takes their responsibility to vote for the best photos. 

 

That's my opinion.

 

- Steven T.  

 

 

I like the way you think, I also try to vote for pictures that I know for sure might not be awarded or sometimes, even published but I think it might add something to the site and the photographer. Now, Im only a level 5 curator so my lowly vote most likely wont matter. Thank you for showing us your stats.

Edited: 4 years ago by Omar Mhanna
Flavio Marfa
4 years ago

Hi all.I had read that expert curators were selected for high  accuracy in the photo rating(only high accuracy scores).

For Robin Hood it culd be a problem.

 
 
Edited: 4 years ago by Flavio Marfa
Omar Mhanna
4 years ago
Flavio Marfa

Hi all.I had read that expert curators were selected for high  accuracy in the photo rating(only high accuracy scores).

For Robin Hood it culd be a problem.

 
 

I wonder how high the accuracy has to be for one to be selected. I was  at 75% but now I'm down to roughly 69%. Yeah, it can be problematic for Robin Hood but i think it's worth it 🙂

Steven T CREW 
4 years ago — Senior critic

Flavio and Omar,   I don't understand the Robin Hood reference.  Could you shed some light on that?  Was he a poor marksman with his arrows, or does that refer to way he took from the rich and gave to the poor?

Omar Mhanna
4 years ago
Steven T PRO

Flavio and Omar,   I don't understand the Robin Hood reference.  Could you shed some light on that?  Was he a poor marksman with his arrows, or does that refer to way he took from the rich and gave to the poor?

I think he means that by giving points to the "poor", the pictures that might not have been chosen i will decrease my chances to myself be chosen as "expert" or something like that. I think...

Edited: 4 years ago by Omar Mhanna
Steven T CREW 
4 years ago — Senior critic

Thanks Omar,  for the explanation.  

Flavio Marfa
4 years ago

The second.I dont' find the discussion where talking about expert curators who maybe alredy been taken.I vote as before but my accuracy score is collapsed(currently fair).As landscape photographer i feel that my suggestion is lost .

Edited: 4 years ago by Flavio Marfa
Al Pakulat PRO
4 years ago
Steven T PRO

Santanu,

 

Thank you for starting the discussion about 'Expert' Curators. 

 

My understanding is that the 'Accuracy' rating is determined by how often the voting member chooses the same pictures that a 'Head Curator' would choose.  In the 'Statistics' page, the 'Correct' decisions are compared to the 'Incorrect' decisions.   I think rewarding members for that sort of accuracy is a recipe for clichés. 

 

Personally I like to vote 'Publish' for photos that show a spark of creativity - no matter how faint.  I vote 'Publish' for photos I know for certain will not be awarded, hoping that my one vote might encourage the photographer in some small way - let them know that one other member noticed and appreciated the photograph they made.  Conversely, I vote 'Reject' for photos that give me the feeling that I have seen them one thousand times already - no matter how technically perfect they may be.  

 

So my 'accuracy' rating is probably not very high.   The 'Statistics' chart is beautiful eye-candy, but the definitions of 'Correct' and 'Incorrect' are arbitrary.  But I guess there's no other way to measure how seriously a member takes their responsibility to vote for the best photos. 

 

That's my opinion.

 

- Steven T.  

 

 

Hi Steven'

You describe approximatley how I vote.  Voting on photos to achieve high accuracy can cause stereotypes, cliches and perpetuate certain styles within 1x.

I vote based on uniqueness and photo content first.  If the photo content does not hold my attention or I would not purchase it, there is no point in going further with curating.  There are enough photos on 1x with blown-out highlights and compressed blacks.

Have a wonderul day!

Mike Kreiten CREW 
4 years ago — Head senior critic

I think we should vote what WE like to become published, what WE adore or fascinates US. In that sense I would not try to "match" a later outcome with my choices.

If I have a look at the front page or list of published photos, I often don't agree with choices. So what sense does it make to be 100% aligned with what I don't agree to?

 

None.

Al Pakulat PRO
4 years ago
Mike Kreiten PRO

I think we should vote what WE like to become published, what WE adore or fascinates US. In that sense I would not try to "match" a later outcome with my choices.

If I have a look at the front page or list of published photos, I often don't agree with choices. So what sense does it make to be 100% aligned with what I don't agree to?

 

None.

I am somewhat confused by you post.  Your first sentence seems to contradict your second sentence.

I cannot vote what WE would like published, because I am not WE.  I am I.  Each photographer can only vote what they want published.

If a photographer tries to anticipate what photos should be published, because of past published photos, then he is not true to himself/herself.

A smile can go a long ways!

Santanu Sengupta PRO
4 years ago
Steven T PRO

Santanu,

 

Thank you for starting the discussion about 'Expert' Curators. 

 

My understanding is that the 'Accuracy' rating is determined by how often the voting member chooses the same pictures that a 'Head Curator' would choose.  In the 'Statistics' page, the 'Correct' decisions are compared to the 'Incorrect' decisions.   I think rewarding members for that sort of accuracy is a recipe for clichés. 

 

Personally I like to vote 'Publish' for photos that show a spark of creativity - no matter how faint.  I vote 'Publish' for photos I know for certain will not be awarded, hoping that my one vote might encourage the photographer in some small way - let them know that one other member noticed and appreciated the photograph they made.  Conversely, I vote 'Reject' for photos that give me the feeling that I have seen them one thousand times already - no matter how technically perfect they may be.  

 

So my 'accuracy' rating is probably not very high.   The 'Statistics' chart is beautiful eye-candy, but the definitions of 'Correct' and 'Incorrect' are arbitrary.  But I guess there's no other way to measure how seriously a member takes their responsibility to vote for the best photos. 

 

That's my opinion.

 

- Steven T.  

 

 

Steven 

 

Thank you so much for your comment.

 

I was curious about this accuracy statistic after I found correct / incorrect stats for my personal profile. As far as I understand, it’s a metric of the number of ‘correct’ or incorrect’ decisions a curator makes vis-à-vis the ultimate publish/reject decision taken by the expert curator team.

 

I completely agree. ‘Incorrect’ is perhaps an incorrect term, and deviant perhaps better captures the essence. Taking a decision that is different from the popular one, and focusing on uniqueness / originality and encouragement is a great way to go, and helps in ensuring interesting and unique images get published. So, a higher ‘accuracy’ does not necessarily imply better decisions.

 

Best

 

Santanu

Edited: 4 years ago by Santanu Sengupta
Santanu Sengupta PRO
4 years ago
Mike Kreiten PRO

I think we should vote what WE like to become published, what WE adore or fascinates US. In that sense I would not try to "match" a later outcome with my choices.

If I have a look at the front page or list of published photos, I often don't agree with choices. So what sense does it make to be 100% aligned with what I don't agree to?

 

None.

Mike

 

In a nutshell - your message is to not bother about accuracy, stats etc., and vote exactly as we feel, rather than try to allign our decisions to what we anticipate might be the ultimate outcome. In that way, we will remain true to ourselves no matter what the final decision on the photo is.

 

Appreciate your comment.

 

Best

 

Santanu.

Anna Cseresnjes PRO
4 years ago

Hi, very interesting questions below, but the main question is

"WHO ARE THE HEAD CURATORS, making final decision ?" 

 

Actually my profile is mentioned 'curator experienced 9' but I don't take any decision at all :-))) 

 

In this matter I'm lightly disappointed actually in chose of "awarded" pictures.

 

That's for sure it is mostly a question of taste, but I'm lightly disappointed by the choice of 'awarded pictures' actually  ???? 

May be I'm wrong and don't have a very good taste ??? :-), but actually nearly 60% of awarded pictures I don't really agree with ????

 

What changed since this new version ???? 

 

Some items are better for sure, but head curation seems to have changed a lot ???

 

Maybe somone could tell me ??

 

krgds Anna

 

 

Edited: 4 years ago by Anna Cseresnjes
Omar Mhanna
4 years ago
Anna Cseresnjes PRO

Hi, very interesting questions below, but the main question is

"WHO ARE THE HEAD CURATORS, making final decision ?" 

 

Actually my profile is mentioned 'curator experienced 9' but I don't take any decision at all :-))) 

 

In this matter I'm lightly disappointed actually in chose of "awarded" pictures.

 

That's for sure it is mostly a question of taste, but I'm lightly disappointed by choose of 'awarded pictures' actually  ???? 

May be I'm wrong and don't have a very good taste ??? :-), but actually nearly 60% of awarded pictures I don't really agree with ????

 

What changed since this new version ???? 

 

Some items are better for sure, but head curation seems to have changed a lot ???

 

Maybe somone could tell me ??

 

krgds Anna

 

 

Im also now an "expert" level curator and it would be nice to know how much more influence that titel brings with it.

Steven T CREW 
4 years ago — Senior critic

Anna, 

 

You wrote . . . .  Hi, very interesting questions below, but the main question is

"WHO ARE THE HEAD CURATORS, making final decision ?"

 

If you click the 'About' button and then scroll down you will see the 15 Head Curators.  Click on their photo to see their profiles.

 

In the 1X magazine there have been several ariticles about how Curation works.  Here are some links . . . .

 

https://gallery.1x.com/blog/permalink/9176

https://gallery.1x.com/blog/permalink/8538
https://gallery.1x.com/blog/permalink/8283
https://gallery.1x.com/blog/permalink/7948
https://gallery.1x.com/blog/permalink/9142

I hope that's helpful. 

 

- Steven T.

Anna Cseresnjes PRO
4 years ago
Steven T PRO

Anna, 

 

You wrote . . . .  Hi, very interesting questions below, but the main question is

"WHO ARE THE HEAD CURATORS, making final decision ?"

 

If you click the 'About' button and then scroll down you will see the 15 Head Curators.  Click on their photo to see their profiles.

 

In the 1X magazine there have been several ariticles about how Curation works.  Here are some links . . . .

 

https://gallery.1x.com/blog/permalink/9176

https://gallery.1x.com/blog/permalink/8538
https://gallery.1x.com/blog/permalink/8283
https://gallery.1x.com/blog/permalink/7948
https://gallery.1x.com/blog/permalink/9142

I hope that's helpful. 

 

- Steven T.

thanks a lot Steven ...

I had a look on the first link you mention and it's more clear now (will see all other links tou mentioned soon).

 

Concerning the "About" button, which one ? Do you mean the "About button" on each profil ?? 

 

kind regards and thanks for your help greetings Anna

 

 

Steven T PRO
https://gallery.1x.com/blog/permalink/9176


hi Omar, yes you're right, but my main question's more to know who actually takes final decisions, 

was much more in accordance with final decision on old version (version where I did not have any status of curator :-) 

 

actually I'm quite disappointed by 'awarded pictures" which are chosen by 'head curators' 

are they still the same as in old version ??? why is there a so big difference in choosing 'awarde pictures' ???

 

rgds

Steven T CREW 
4 years ago — Senior critic

Hi, Anna,

 

The 'About' button is found by hovering your mouse over '1X' at the top left of the opening page of the website.  Hovering opens a dropdown menu, and 'About' is the fifth one from the top. 

 

Steven

Anna Cseresnjes PRO
4 years ago

thanks a lot Steven for your kind help ... greetings Anna