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#CRITIQUE 1X
João Pedro Navarro Maranhão PRO
2 months ago

Hello, dear members and experts! On this topic i would like to request your critiques - i dont mind if it will be harsh hahah - about the first photo you see attached, i want to know your thoughts about that, how it makes you feel, whats your opinion about technical issues on frame, and also what did you guys think about the edit (if anyone asks, i can attach the "raw" version). I've been able to sell some of these on exhibitions, and to some people who (i guess) some friend of mine must have talked about my work to, but, in order to do so, i got the help of a friend who has a gallery and who knows how to manage the photoshop, and so do my maind idea to print it. What you see is the "original"(edited) photography, the print of it consists basically on the exact same picutre, but "attached" with another one - the same photo - which is upside down. This gives an abstract aspect that a i really like, it just seems to me a red diagonal rip crossing all the "square" frame, which could refer to blood or something else, in a icy blue background, i really enjoy that mix and the textures, the colors contrast that we can see on it. I've now discovered here on forum (thank you all ahhah) that lightroom has a sharpenning and denoise tool similar to the Toppaz i often see you guys using. It takes considerable time to do it anyways, so, if the process hasn't finished till i end this topic, i will attach the photo on the version without that feature. If anyone asks, i can return and attach the higher quality version after.

 

 

Besides that, i would like to use this topic to ask some questions that are making me wonder how the 1x curation works, so i will divide my answers in 2 sub topics:

 

1) Curation - can i submite to curation a picture that already been rejected? I've been working in some that was, but im not sure if im allowed to submit it to curation again or even if i could do it with photos that got rejected, but i would still like to insist on it (for real, there are like 1 or 2 photos that im willing to insist on its publish hahah. Another thing about curation, is it normal to gets photos rejected with no feedback at all? I will attach here the printscreen i just took of my curation painel in wich there is one photograph about to be rejected hahah, but as you can see, there is just no feedback. I just wonder, if the disapproval on that one is so big, it must have some reasons, right? Im actually thinking that the curators hate it so much they didn't bother giving any feedback, just like who ways "you better take another shot of that" hahahh.

 

2) Collection - Im not sure about the proper translation here, so i will try to elaborate on this. On my photograph i always look to scenes that can be captured in order to show people the beauty i was able to see on the moment of the capture, or at least in most cases, since another pictures i just want to show people the beauty not that i saw when i captured it, but the potential to transform it in something else, as i try to do in my "abstract" (just natural enviroment photography, focusing in shapes, shadows, not concerning any particular main subject). Its simple like that, and in order to do so, i often have many captures about the same scenario, what i think it helps the viewer immersion on the work. Combined with this, since i was young and thinking about photography, i always wanted to capture scenarios that people would hang it on their walls to show to other people, what is a main achievement to my goals in photography, and not because this is some kind of approval (yet of course it is), but because i could transmit to the viewer the excatly same sense that drive me into photography: show the other the beauty i was fortunate to see with my brow furrowed in order to change the avarage perspectiva of the scenario. If not that, i've been always willingly to the idea of doing indoors or open air art exhibitions, in which present more than one photography will creates the mood of your exhibition, which i did a few times, and it was a very pleasing experience.

 

One particular exemple of this is my "collection" fall, which i captured the fall of a glacier in perito moreno. There is 12 pictures, 8 capturing the motion of the fall, 2 capturing the chaotic quietness of the moments after the fall (as the water is pretty quiet, when the glacier falls it forms a wave, so i could capture that "contrast" of movement on the water), and other 2 capturing the moments when i realized the fall was about to happen. I think that particular first shot, when i realized the glacier was about to fall, have nothing special if you take it separetely of the other pictures, but i really do think its presence its a big must, since its basically capturing a ice wall alongside the water, and you can spot a bit of shake on a particular spot of the water, which is happen due to the ice rocks hitting the water (on the frame i could capture the very first ice rock to do that), the second shot i just lowered my focal lenght 250 to like 150, so now we can see the dimension of that creepy big glacier that is about to fall, what in my opinion have a good mood contrast with the previous shot, as well it shows the rush of the moment when capturing it, like, the viewer can be immerse on that moment realizing, just as i was at the time, what was about to happen. So, that said (sorry about the prolixity haha), there's a way that i could submit a group of photographys to curation, which all of them are, for real, just one work? Or do i have to send them separately? Im asking this becaus, as i said, i think that, for example, that first photography i tooked of the glacier fall would never  be published, there is nothing special with that alone, but it gets more sense when you see the other ones. For sure, there is 2 or 3 captures of the glacier fall itself that i consider very pleasing - at least to my taste -, but i really do think that they need to be shown all together, or at least it must so haha.   

 

Thats all, sorry for bothering. Thank you all so much for the learning, it has been amazing to discover 1x, i think its already changing my way to perceive noise, and much other technical and artistic aspects in photography.

 

Best regards to you all!

 

 

 

Edited: 2 months ago by João Pedro Navarro Maranhão
João Pedro Navarro Maranhão PRO
2 months ago

 

Steven T CREW 
2 months ago — Senior critic

João, 

 

I'll try to answer  your questions as I understand them. 

 

First, is it OK to upload a photo that has been rejected?   The FAQ section states this  . . . .

 

"How do I re-upload photos?
If you have improved a photo you can re-upload it in the action menu below your photo in full size."
 
In the old version of 1X, a moderator had to look at the new photo and approve it to be re-submitted, but I don't know if that's still done. 
 
You asked if it's normal to have a photo finish Curation with no feedback at all.  Yes, that happens.  It may mean that very few members voted, or just that none of them knew how to comment on it.  Many members have noted that the percentage scores and pie charts are sometimes useful - but often not useful.  It's like a physical gallery space - many people may look at your photographs on the wall,  but not write anything in the comments book.  You'll never know if they liked or disliked what they saw. 
 
You asked about posting a sequence or collection of photos.  That's not possible here at 1X unless you make a collage or montage.  If you put several photos together in one frame - like a triptych - that can be posted as one photo.  You said you had a sequence of 12 photos.  If you could choose three or four that tell the story effectively, maybe  they could be arranged together in one frame to show the sequence. 
 
I wasn't clear on the way you displayed the photo of the red tree with glacier background.  You wrote that you attached another photo beside it, but upside down.   So I'm guessing that it looked  like one of these two attached below? 
 
The 'mirror-image' technique can be interesting, but some viewers might see it as 'trick photography' and not like it.  You are the artist - you have to choose the subjects and techniques you want people to see.    Not all viewers will like everything.  I remember the first time I saw a mirror image photo - it was fascinating.  In the darkroom days we would flip the negative to make a second print and then mount the two side by side, and then retouch the line between them.   It's much easier now with digital imaging. 
 
With any photo we make we should consider the theme, the purpose, the meaning.  Sometimes it can't be said with words, but there should  be something that you want to communicate to the viewer - a thought or a feeling or a story. 
 
. . . . .  Steven, senior critic
 
 
 
 




Edited: 2 months ago by Steven T
João Pedro Navarro Maranhão PRO
2 months ago
Steven T CREW 

João, 

 

I'll try to answer  your questions as I understand them. 

 

First, is it OK to upload a photo that has been rejected?   The FAQ section states this  . . . .

 

"How do I re-upload photos?
If you have improved a photo you can re-upload it in the action menu below your photo in full size."
 
In the old version of 1X, a moderator had to look at the new photo and approve it to be re-submitted, but I don't know if that's still done. 
 
You asked if it's normal to have a photo finish Curation with no feedback at all.  Yes, that happens.  It may mean that very few members voted, or just that none of them knew how to comment on it.  Many members have noted that the percentage scores and pie charts are sometimes useful - but often not useful.  It's like a physical gallery space - many people may look at your photographs on the wall,  but not write anything in the comments book.  You'll never know if they liked or disliked what they saw. 
 
You asked about posting a sequence or collection of photos.  That's not possible here at 1X unless you make a collage or montage.  If you put several photos together in one frame - like a triptych - that can be posted as one photo.  You said you had a sequence of 12 photos.  If you could choose three or four that tell the story effectively, maybe  they could be arranged together in one frame to show the sequence. 
 
I wasn't clear on the way you displayed the photo of the red tree with glacier background.  You wrote that you attached another photo beside it, but upside down.   So I'm guessing that it looked  like one of these two attached below? 
 
The 'mirror-image' technique can be interesting, but some viewers might see it as 'trick photography' and not like it.  You are the artist - you have to choose the subjects and techniques you want people to see.    Not all viewers will like everything.  I remember the first time I saw a mirror image photo - it was fascinating.  In the darkroom days we would flip the negative to make a second print and then mount the two side by side, and then retouch the line between them.   It's much easier now with digital imaging. 
 
With any photo we make we should consider the theme, the purpose, the meaning.  Sometimes it can't be said with words, but there should  be something that you want to communicate to the viewer - a thought or a feeling or a story. 
 
. . . . .  Steven, senior critic
 
 
 
 




Thank you Steven! Your answer is enlightening. Sorry for dindt check the FAQ hahah.

 

And you got it right, despite my noisy comunication hahah, the way i like it more is that last one you did. I forgot that i had to crop a little bit in the upper area so we can have a better effect, but its fine.

 

I also really liked ther other version you did! I didn't think about it, but 4 photos work nice as well (yet, i still prefer the last one heheh).

 

 

Thank you very much, my friend!

 

Best regards!

 

Maranhão

Edited: 2 months ago by João Pedro Navarro Maranhão